Streamlined Email Newsletter Creation

Posted by Justin Premick

Starting this afternoon you’ll notice that the pages you use to create and edit your emails look a bit different than they did before.

We’re working on a number of layout changes in your AWeber account, which we’ll roll out gradually over the coming weeks.

To see what we’ve changed, and why, read on.

Message Edit Page: Old vs. New

Below you can see the old and new versions of the message edit page side-by-side. Click on the thumbnails to see full-size images.

Follow Up Edit Page - Old Version
Follow Up Edit Page - New Version

As you can see, there are a few notable changes:

What Do You Think?

We’re working on changes to the rest of the control panel as well, and we’d love to have your feedback as we do so.

So… love it? Hate it? Tell us what you think (and why) in the comments!





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82 Responses

  1. Bruce
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Where is the SPAM checker????????????

  2. Justin Premick
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Bruce,

    The spam checker will return.

    For now, it’s not linked on the edit pages because it doesn’t automatically update as you change your content (the score in the old interface was based on the most recently saved version of your message).

    As always, it’s still available on the main Follow Up and Broadcast pages - just not within the edit screen.

    Once we make the spam checker automatically update as you type your message, we’ll return it to the edit pages.

  3. John
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Justin,

    I’ve always just used the text email box. But I’ve thought of using html more. Should I now put the same message in both boxes? What determines who gets text or html?

    Thanks!

    P.S. Love the changes!

  4. Francis Hayes
    September 11th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Can the WIDTH of the HTML edit area be adjusted? My message is wider than the window and it is very annoying having to scroll left and right.

    I can adjust the height but not the width. The small triangle of dots in the botton right corner usually indicates that a window is resizable. But it doesn’t work here.

  5. Susan
    September 11th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Oh my gosh, it’s so SLOW. I think something is wrong. Hopefully, it’s just a temporary glitch in the system.

  6. Jason Pearson
    September 11th, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Hi,

    I was just going over your updates. Really cool stuff. Keep up the great work. I have used just about every autoresponder out there and this one is definitely #1.

  7. Chris Guillebeau
    September 11th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    Interesting. At first I didn’t like it when I saw it up today, but I suspect that’s mostly due to the shock of seeing a different page come up after years of seeing the same reliable "old version" of the template.

    Reading your post, the reasons for the change make sense. For me, it’s interesting to see that you switched the HTML and text windows "to encourage more people to include plain text versions of their HTML emails."

    I have used plain text (only) for a long time - yes, I know that’s old-school - and when I saw the new version, I assumed you made the switch to encourage text senders to start using HTML more.

  8. Brett
    September 11th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Maybe I am just working backwards of everyone else, but I have always created my text message first and then copied it to the HTML message. Done this way the links inside the text message were automatically converted to hyperlinks in the HTML message. (at least they were in IE. Firefox didn’t seem to work so well with this).

    Once this was done I could tweak any of the HTML I wanted to. For me this was much easier than creating the HTML first and then having to create the text message.

    Now I have to scroll down near the bottom of the page to work on the text and then scroll back up to complete the HTML.

    Like I said, maybe it’s just me, but it just seems backwaards now.

    Anyone else feel this way?

  9. Karin H.
    September 12th, 2008 at 6:11 am

    Hi

    It says: send immediately, but when you save the message the send time is the time saved. And since I didn’t want to test out if it was really send out after Queuing I edit the send time.

    for future broadcasts: will it be send immediately after you click queue?

  10. Karin H.
    September 12th, 2008 at 8:18 am

    Hi Brett

    Used to do that too, only because the HTML didn’t allow for personalised fields (either insert manually or copy from plain text).

    Now the html has the same personalise option straight away, making it much easier.

    Option for you would be perhaps to write your message out in Word (great spell check etc) then copy/paste in both the html box as the plain-text box? (I prepare many of the messages and broadcast this way anyway)

  11. Justin Premick
    September 12th, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Francis,

    In the upper left-hand corner of the HTML box is an icon that looks like a computer screen.

    Click it and the editor will expand to the full width of the page.

    Click it again when you’re done editing and the editor will return to its original size.

    John,

    When you send a message with both an HTML and a text version, most people will see the HTML version. Those people whose email programs either do not support HTML, or who have disabled HTML viewing, will see your text version.

    Your HTML version shouldn’t be a different message (in terms of what you’re discussing) from your plain text one - but other than that it’s really up to you.

    Many people essentially do copy their plain text version (they only want to use HTML for the open rate tracking and the occasional text link), while others use one of our HTML email templates.

    Karin,

    Thanks for bringing that up.

    The broadcast scheduling works the same as it did before. If you don’t change the date and time, the broadcast sends as quickly as possible after you press "queue now."

    For the many people who create their broadcasts right before they intend to send them, there’s no need to display the date/time boxes. (Based on feedback we’ve gotten in our webinars and elsewhere, it wasn’t obvious to people that they could send a broadcast immediately - they thought they had to pick a future date/time.)

    Brett,

    A word of caution re: copying from plain text to HTML.

    After you copy/paste, you do need to use the link tool to create links from whatever text you want people to be able to click on.

    While in some cases, the email client will automatically convert URLs in HTML messages to clickable links, in others it won’t.

    By using the link tool to create your HTML message links, you enable all your subscribers to click your HTML links (rather than having to copy/paste them into their browsers).

  12. Justin Premick
    September 12th, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Karin (and anyone),

    Unless you have no other option, may I strongly discourage the use of MS Word to create/draft your message.

    Copying from MS Word to a plain text *or* an HTML message can be problematic, as it has a nasty habit of inserting its own proprietary formatting that can cause your message to not display as you intended.

    The "paste from Word" tool in the HTML editor is designed to correct many of these formatting issues - but I’d still call that a last resort. Much better to use Notepad or another true plain text editor.

    (Besides, we offer a spellchecker for both plain text and HTML messages :) )

  13. Lalitha Brahma
    September 12th, 2008 at 9:15 am

    I am yet to test. But I am sure this will be a change for better. Thanks

  14. Karin H.
    September 12th, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Of course your right Justin ;-)

    Just forgot to mention in my early comment that after writing and checking in Word (AWeber spell checker is USA English based, sorry but I and I think many other AWeber account holders use UK English, or Dutch, French, German??) I copy past the prepared text in notepad to get rid of all the Word formatting.

  15. Chris D
    September 12th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Justin,

    I really like the new layout and especially the helpful tips.. the site certainly works better than it did the past couple months. It’s great you are constantly making changes to better your service.

  16. Jules
    September 12th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Took a look. We’ll just need to get into the new habits, but I look forward to checking it out.

    I have always been frustrated that PREVIEW doesn’t always reflect
    the formatting issues that show up in test emails. Often I have to
    back and forth to make sure that the formatting doesn’t mistakeningly have one line extend wayyy beyond others.

    I do use Notetab or write directly into Aweber.

    Progress = Change so, keep it up and we’ll all adjust :)

  17. John
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    My thoughts,

    One of the worst design changes ever. Used to be simple, but now is a mess.

    I guess it goes to prove, "If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it".

  18. Justin Premick
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    Jules,

    Testing your messages is always a prudent thing to do, as different email programs will vary slightly in how they render content

    What you’re describing sounds odd to me - I haven’t experienced that with the messages I create. Get in touch with us with some details on the issue and how you create your messages and we’ll get to the bottom of it.

    John,

    Could you elaborate on what you don’t like?

    Design changes are an ongoing process, and we do take the feedback here seriously… would love to hear *why* you feel that way.

  19. Jeanette
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    I like the idea of the link checker at the bottom of the page but is there any way to extend the time used to check the links beyond 20 seconds?

    I have links to Amazon and other larger sites that simply take longer than 20 seconds to load but are active and valid links. However because of the time frame they keep showing up as invalid.

    On a separate note, I use MS Word to create my documents. If I copy the html code either from Word or FrontPage and then use Aweber’s option for "Classic HTML" and paste the HTML code in there it gets the best results and retains pretty much all formatting.

  20. Donna Walsh
    September 12th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Hi

    I did set up some future broadcasts so I have checked it out.

    I really dislike having the HTML box before the text one. I only send text emails, not HTML ones as I have found that some people who can’t receive HTML emails still get the HTML version which of course gets them annoyed and results in them unsubscribing from my lists!

    So since even those who send HTML emails should send text ones too, it doesn’t make sense to put the HTML box first.

    Some of the other stuff I will need to get used to but am finding it akward right now.

  21. Valerie
    September 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    I don’t like having the time sent set to right now by default. Plus the date box doesn’t come up until you select send later. I find myself constantly worrying about the date and reminding myself to make sure of the date sent now because I always preload my broadcast messages. This wasn’t a worry before because I could set it easily right away and get on with my message.

    Also, can we set up a way to only have the tips boxes if you need or want them. I find them very annoying on the screen.

    I find this format pretty awkward to work with especially the major change of the html first instead of the text box.

  22. AJ
    September 12th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    I usually dislike revisions that create more need to stop and relearn and proven process, but the revisions are not so drastic.

    I do agree that I prefer the text first before html because I send both and like to do text first.

    Is it slow for a specific reason?

  23. Bender
    September 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    I’m with John on this one.

    There was nothing wrong with the old version and I think the worst thing that can ever be done is to "improve upon" something that works perfectly.

    Over time, one develops a systematic approach to the way they conduct business and then one day, out of the blue, there is a wrench thrown into the works.

    Now there is more thought process involved where there once was little.

    There is also a fear that one may be overlooking something which may potentially harm their business or relationship with their list if overlooked.

    In fact, the vibrant blue color change a month or so ago made me a bit nervous because I was concerned that there may have been some other changes thrown into the mix. It’s a good blue though.

    I cant speak for everyone, but I will anyway because I’m the one typing.

    I think the only change everyone would really like to see is having the entire operation centered on the page.

    For those of us with wide monitors, it’s a stretch of the neck, movement of the chair and change of angle on the keyboard.

    I feel like I’m hanging my head out the driver’s side window looking for a safe moment to pass on the highway.

    Aweber is still the best and there’s no denying that, but now it’s just a little different, or… better?

    That’s my 2 cents and back to work I go. I’m currently leaping over a newly located HTML editor to experience the warm embrace of my trusted and less rejected text editor.

  24. Brett
    September 12th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    I would have to agree with Jeanette. Could you include an option to disable the link checker if we would like to?

    I too keep getting the message that a link is bad, yet when I click on it, it works fine and pulls the page up within a few seconds. I have yet to have a link that I am told is not a valid link take longer than the 20 seconds to pull up the page.

  25. LuAnn Beckman
    September 12th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    I switched to using the HTML templates after I received some from others and liked them.

    I was wondering if there is a way to select a template, set it up with your information and save it as your own template? That way you do not have to put your information in each time you want to use it. Save a lot of time.

    I like the new set up. I, too, missed the spam checker. It took me a little while to find it. That is a very helpful tool.

  26. Derrick
    September 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    I don’t use HTML and it’s a pain to scroll up and down. Could you make an option in settings to HIDE the HTML box by default within an option to show on the broadcast edit page?

  27. Anita DeFrank
    September 12th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Awesome! Thanks for continually making changes around here to make things better for us.

    Hopefully we all know that it’s virtually impossible to make EVERYONE happy all the time ;-) If you figure out a way to make how many users happy with every move you make - I wanna know your secret!

    I personally love the new design. It’s so much easier to use, everything has a much cleaner look and it flows very nicely. I also love the fact that the link tracker isn’t so hidden and I don’t have to worry about whether or not I checked the box.

    It’s also great that it’s set up for those "not-so-list-savvy" users know the proper way to send out a message - good thinking!

    I wanted to comment on something you said:

    "After you copy/paste, you do need to use the link tool to create links from whatever text you want people to be able to click on."

    Thanks so much for mentioning this! I don’t believe I’m one of those "not-so-list-savvy" users I mentioned but I never even gave it a thought that I was not doing this. It of course shows up in the message box as a live link and my email program apparently automatically makes it a live link so when I send myself a test message, it’s live. Apparently I’m risking it not being a live link for some of my subscribers.

    I guess I just wanted to repeat what you said here because I think it is a very important comment and I have a feeling I’m probably not the only person doing this.

    I’d also like to echo Jules’s comment as well. I’m surprised you said this sounded odd. I don’t even bother using the preview option anymore because it looks nothing like the actual email that is sent out.

    I do always test regardless and still would even if the preview option didn’t do this. However, I like Jules also spend a lot of time sending numerous test emails to myself to make it look "just right".

    Anyway - thanks for trying to satisfy as many of us as possible! I appreciate it!

  28. Anita DeFrank
    September 12th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Just my personal thoughts on the link checker but …
    I really like it. All it takes is a simple click on the box to ignore them and you’re good to go.

    I hadn’t even noticed it was there until I got a message about one of my links not working - sure enough - it was a simple typo. I was gracious it pointed it out because I would have had to send out a second email about it.

  29. Jules
    September 12th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Anita,
    THANKS! I thought I was losing my mind! LOL.

  30. Sally
    September 12th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I dont like the HTML message at the top because I dont use html messages.

    I also see it increases the spam score too, so i have to make sure nothing is in the html box / source code.

    I did get a big shock when I seen it, but now I have used the new layout a few times it doesnt bother me so much.

    Sally :)

  31. John Manley
    September 12th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Much cleaner layout. Thank you!

    One thing I would love to see is the ability to search all lists at once for a particular field. Right now you have to search one list a time.

  32. Femi
    September 12th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Utilizing the Spam Checker has helped us out tremendously. It’s such a basic idea, but so necessary.

  33. Haywood
    September 12th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    I love it this way. You can create the email you want to send faster and deliver it the same minute without schedule. Thanks guys.

  34. RON
    September 12th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    Great changes it makes creating messages easier!……..Where’s the spam checker?

  35. Akili Kumasi
    September 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Hi Justin,

    The changes are for the most part good. I like having the HTML box on top since that is what I use. The split testing is also good to see right up front.

    However, I agree with what Valerie (and Karin) said on the date box. It takes an effort to get used to it. The previous version handled this better. Also, you don’t necessarily know if the date is wrong until after you save the message. In fact, I sent a broadcast out immediately instead of delayed because I did not notice that the date feature did not take the future date that I put in.

    A suggestion is the have a calender pop-up so the date can be clicked on - instead of typed in. I’m sure the AWeber designers and programmer will work this out.

    For Karin and Jules, might I suggest creating the message in HTML in Notepad. That way you can view it in Internet Explorer (or another browser) on your computer prior to copying the code into the HTML editor on AWeber.

  36. Jade
    September 12th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Overall I quite like the improvements.

    However, one thing that’s mising that I’d truly love to see is an "automatic text version generator."

    I use aweber along with 2 other email providers (that I won’t mention) on behalf of several clients. And aweber is the only one where I have to manually create my text version.

    In the others, I just need to create my HTML version and then the system will automatically create a text version, with working links, divider lines and so on.

    It’s so much more convenient. Will aweber be adding that some time soon?

  37. Dylan Loh
    September 12th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    Very interesting, cool and refreshing design. I see that button to exclude on all other lists is just ‘easier’ now that the box is just beside the message.

    What I think would be REALLY good is if we can send a broadcast to all the sublists in my aweber account from just ONE single broadcast. AND have it ‘personalised’. Because I use different ‘from’ adress and ‘names’ field for different sublists, whenever I do a broadcast, I’ve to repeat the whole broadcasts steps over 15 times! It would save me a ton of time if we had something like that!

  38. Gary
    September 12th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    I’m not sure how putting the text message below the html message will help to encourage people to include a plain text message as well.

    I always use both and preferred having the plain text at the top.

    This way I can create my message using http://www.randomsitelink.com, then copy my plain text message down in the the html version and convert all the http links into anchor text links.

  39. Gabriel
    September 12th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    One word : Congratulations !

  40. John Sweet
    September 13th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    I only use the HTLM for the 1st follow up just to show the recipient that I have a professional website.

    All other emails oonly ever go in plain text as it looks much more
    personal and gets read.

    How often do your friends write to you in HTML?

  41. Edith
    September 13th, 2008 at 4:49 am

    I’m happy with the changes (I was worried I wasn’t going to be, after reading the reactions above!). They really are an improvement, esp. what you did with the options.

    One remark. I usually create my broadcast a few days before sending, so I would use the ’send later’ option. But having to fill in the date manually is a pain! Can’t you make a nice little pop-up date-picker like you have in the ’search leads’ section? It makes it not only easier to fill in, but also easier to decide which date & day I want to sent (I may know I want to send next Friday, but may not know the date).

    I have another idea that they use on a similar service I use in Holland: you first do the html, and then click on ‘create text message’ and it cleanses your html and creates a perfect text message from it, with links working and all (and, of course, keeps the html part as well). Great system which saves a lot of time! Hope you can implement this at AWeber as well!

  42. Donna Walsh
    September 13th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    Hi

    I also like the link checker. I have never had a good link be displayed, only bad ones.

    So this is a great check BEFORE my email goes out to my subscribers and they click on a bad link!

    It saves me support time and doesn’t annoy my subscribers.

  43. Jared Pomranky
    September 13th, 2008 at 9:26 am

    I really like the new layout. The changes seem simple but the order is much more intuitive to how I create my messages, which makes a big difference. No longer am I scrolling down to complete something then scrolling back up to the top to go to my second step. It also seems cleaner.

    Being able to schedule my broadcast sends is also a bonus! I’m a convert from another service and this was the only feature I wanted from the other service… until now.

  44. Dr.Mani
    September 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Unless you have data based on usability, I feel these frequent
    changes from a ‘design’ perspective are annoying.

    When you moved to a Web2.0′ish look and feel, it took some getting
    used to - but there was a significant difference from the older
    version.

    This latest change adds very little value (my personal opinion,
    worth a full 2 cents, so take it with as large a pinch of salt
    as you wish to) - as the features/functionality is the same -
    except I have to learn a NEW WAY to do things.

    It reduces my effectiveness and consumes more time, at least in
    the short term - and as far as I can see, for no tangible
    advantage/benefit to me, as a user.

    I wish you’d do these redesigning things less often (like, maybe,
    once in 5 years, if not 10) - unless it is backed by usability
    data and/or a ‘broken’ process.

    Otherwise, "If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it!" seems a better
    philosophy to adopt.

    You asked for my feedback - so I’m giving it to you :)

  45. Judy Adler
    September 13th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    I agree with the several comments about the preview message not
    always looking like the test message when i receive it in my mailbox.

    The most common differences is when I indent a paragraph (like a P.S., and the preview messages shows the indented sentences aligned with each other (as I typed them) but the test message shows some sentences out of alignment.

    What can I do to correct this?

  46. Debra Wendler
    September 13th, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Dear Justin,

    Although you and others may find those changes helpful, I wish you would spend more time making changes that I consider really useful?

    For example, being able to copy message sequences to another autoresponder. Or to create a master sequence board of messages that we can reorder and copy to different lists. I can go on and on.

    For those of us with numerous lists and messages, this is NOT easy to use.

    The instructions are sketchy at best. You could greatly improve on how you explain sequencing and tracking.

    At ADHDParentingTips.com, we help parents solve their children’s behavior problems. And many of my messages apply to different lists.

    These are my priorities

    Ease of rapid message creation
    tracking ability of open rates and link clicks
    ease of list and message management

    Figure out a way to make it easy for me to keep steady messages going to all my lists without duplication or gaps - you’ve got me for life.

    I suggest a method whereby we can stick in a large volume of content and then the system will parse it out into 100 word messages in sequence and I can add links where I want and title them.

    But I want to see them all at once and to be able to move messages and copy messages easily between the lists. So I can write a message and can copy it to 5 lists. A sort of autoresponder story board.

    I want to be able to create product sequences that stay together. So I can have promotions listed and copy that entire promotion sequence to 7 difference autoresponders. And I need a check to see if they have seen that promotion before.

    You see?

    Also, if part of my list has first names listed and part doesn’t, I need a way to mail them all and stick in "friend" instead of their first name. Otherwise I have to do two mailings.

    Being able to quickly move through all my lists and messages easily to save TIME. Isn’t that the idea here?

    I, too, find your link checking awkward because it says my video links are too slow so I have to check that dumb little box EVERY SINGLE TIME. I don’t mind checking it once, but REALLY.

    You need to streamline the system for optin verification. Improving that would make a HUGE difference. At the very least do a second message that goes out reminding them that they never completed the optin. You could easily improve that process by 25%.

    And finally, why can’t we just set how many characters wide our messages are and have the software automatically control the margins? I find your method more than cumbersome.

    These are what I would consider REALLY useful improvements. Just the start of them really.

    Thank you for the opportunity to air my wish list. Hope you really wanted to know this much.

  47. Raj
    September 13th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    All good changes. Thanks !

  48. Anita DeFrank
    September 13th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    About the spam checker … you might have missed it but Justin did answer that question above:

    "The spam checker will return.

    For now, it?s not linked on the edit pages because it doesn?t automatically update as you change your content (the score in the old interface was based on the most recently saved version of your message).

    As always, it?s still available on the main Follow Up and Broadcast pages - just not within the edit screen.

    Once we make the spam checker automatically update as you type your message, we?ll return it to the edit pages."

    I so look forward to the spam check automatically updating our messages as we enter it!

  49. Doug Anderson
    September 13th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    When I first signed up with Aweber a couple of years ago, I was using a slow connection in Thailand. I found it extremely annoying to use a web-based interface because of the constant waiting and the frequent timeouts that caused my work to disappear.

    Now that I am in Canada and have a fast connection, those problems have disappeared for me (although not for others), but still, it seems to me that the basic process is dumb. Yes, these are definite improvements to what you had before, but why not give us a desktop application that runs at lightning speed and then uploads the final result to Aweber when we’re done? Google does this with Adwords. Americans tend to forget that the rest of the world does not necessarily have a high speed broadband connection.

    It seems to me that your programmer or designer has a one-way vision and is not aware of what people actually want to do with Aweber. I mean, why write an editor, that is going to have peculiarities and bugs, when Open Office and Microsoft Word do it so much better? Harness them, don’t compete with them.

    The other major complaint I have is that you do not follow up on people who did not respond to the confirmation e-mail. A second e-mail a day or two later would undoubtedly improve sign-ups by at least 25%, probably more.

    Regarding the new interface, I think it’s a vast improvement over the previous version, especially as I no longer feel like a surgeon doing keyhole surgery in those tiny edit boxes. But still, the edit interface has some peculiarities and the preview doesn’t always match the actual e-mail.

    You’re getting there, but you’re not there yet.

  50. Doug Anderson
    September 13th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    I agree that the text version of the message should be automatically generated from the HTML, that is so easy to implement. The text could then be edited if necessary.

  51. Ed
    September 13th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    I like the changes. I think it was smart to put the HTML first - that’s where I start - then text, then the options. That’s exactly the order that I work. Good job.

  52. Gina Rafkind
    September 13th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    I’m still fairly new to aweber so haven’t used the older version that long. However the newer version does seem very clean looking and easier to use.
    So far love the changes.

  53. Marc Dussault
    September 13th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    There is too much white space between the elements - it requires ADDITIONAL scrolling when in fact a tighter vertical layout would be more compact and efficient for those of us who write a lot of messages.

    That is an obvious improvement that can be made - just removing the blank lines.

    For example the Submit Comment, notify me of comments and subscribe boxes below this one is tight, compact and easy to read.

    I realise this is a first draft and that you will fine tune it - I will reserve further comments following getting used to the new layout and format.

    Habits die hard and these might very well be better ones to adopt!

    Onward and upward!

    Thank you for the effort to IMPROVE your product - it was starting to look a little dated, but worked well…

  54. Gal
    September 13th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    The user control panel loads faster now, so that’s a bonus. The overall look is also much improved. :)

    Oh, please give us a CHOICE on whether to view the text editor or HTML editor on the top view, as some of us work with the text editor while others use the HTML one.

    Can you please get the Billing Summary to clearly show the date and amount for next payment, as sometimes I tend to forget when it’s due.

    I hope the bugs were fixed as previously my emails were not sent out to my lists.

    Thanks.

  55. Sten
    September 14th, 2008 at 2:40 am

    Dear Justin,

    Like Debra Wendler, I’m looking for changes that help me manage campaigns easier and better. Making usability changes can be good (if backed by data, like dr. Mani poins out). But what’s really missing from Aweber is an API.

    For example. I would like to send emails based on events on my website.

    - when a customer browses a specific product page, I would like to send him/her an email about that product 24 hours later

    - I’d like to be able to edit subscriber information from my website (so I can keep login email the same as the Aweber-email, for example, or let them change their password and have it reflected in later emails sent through Aweber)

    - I’d like to be able to check programatically if they ‘ve bought both product A and product B, then I can send them a specific email through Aweber.

    All in all, a good API would be very useful.

  56. Marilyn Jenett
    September 14th, 2008 at 6:24 am

    I only read a couple of comments, but I agree with Franics who said the width of the html box is too narrow. It’s easier to sense proportion and eye appeal if there is a wider view. I feel "squeezed" when I’m typing. Everytime you make changes it seems like the viewing screen gets narrower.

    Although I noticed a couple of changes that add convenience, the main issue I have is the viewing screen appearing all the way on the left side of the monitor. I feel disjointed and it’s difficult to focus and type. I almost didn’t want to send my newsletter tonight but I thought I would go through it once and send you a comment.

    It would be much easier to type if the screen were centered or wherever it was previously. I don’t recall it being so far left.

  57. Karin H.
    September 14th, 2008 at 8:58 am

    Akili, if you click in the date box a calendar already pops-up, so problem solved I think.

    As for using notepad for the html message, bit difficult when using one of the templates.
    I always test the completed message to myself to see how it looks like (in two different email programs).

  58. Kevin
    September 14th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Justin,

    Thanks for all your replies to the many questions given here, so I won’t bog you down with to many. In fact, its a repeat question that maybe I didn’t catch the answer to. But, how to you resize the html version of the text body? It’s so wide when I send it out, and I’d like to change that.

    Thanks

  59. Joel
    September 14th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    I don’t find the new changes of particular significance to warrant any fanfare.

    I have noticed a new addition over the past few weeks that I do find bothersome that I’ll reference here….

    You’ve implemented a new "Invalid Links" capability that dynamically checks each web link reference in a message or broadcast. While clarly understand the good intention, this extra new process ‘hangs’ up my editing of my broadcasts for 30 to 45 seconds periodically while I am working on content. In my particular application, I publish a weekly update to private clients and subscribers and in my content I reference charts, etc that are in a secure (client-only) area of my website. I know that I can manually ‘Allow’ what your new feature thinks is an invalid link when I save my message/broadcase, but I’d rather not have to deal with it at all and would like the ability to set a default for this to in effect turn off this new ‘feature’.

  60. Bob Jenkins
    September 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Change is good, except when it’s happening.

    I like the new changes overall as the flow of creating messages
    is more in line with the logic of creating the messages.

    What I would like to see is the Web Form interface change in the Design Form. For things like Last Name and other pre-set fields, they used to be available to insert, but now it’s a mystery how to get them into a new form.

    But as far as the messages go, the new format is cleaner and helps streamline for new people.

    I just started teaching my webinar course on autoresponders right AFTER you made these changes. So fortunately, the layout is in the videos instead of having to repeat it.

    I do agree with Dr. Mani a bit in that usability should drive the changes, but every 5 years is definitely an overexaggeration of time between changes.

    Overall, Aweber remains the #1 autoresponder system, and it’s great to see innovation for our benefit.

  61. Terry Stockdale
    September 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Two suggestions on the "new broadcast message" page:
    1) Do not default to "Send Immediately" - Default to "Send Later"
    We need to be able to send a test message to ourselves as before. The send immediately default is going to embarrass us all as we accidentally send an incomplete, unchecked message.
    2) Personally, I don’t like the click-tracking functions. I’d rather the default be unchecked. However, either way is ok. At least that doesn’t set a trap for us like the Send Immediately default does.

  62. Suzanne
    September 15th, 2008 at 6:28 am

    Add me to those who create a text version first. Would have liked to have kept that same order (text first, then HTML).

    As an aside, I’d also love to be able to save my own template.

    Thanks for listening

  63. Chris Lang
    September 15th, 2008 at 6:57 am

    Just the ability to email all my lists at once and not get duplicates is worth the price of entry. Thanks.

    Also, I have complained and moaned over getting kicked out due to FireFox 3.1 issues, I see you have fixed that as well.

    Thanks, I am once again a satisfied AWeber customer.

  64. Docaltman
    September 15th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    Nice to see the changes. I think the changes are more logical. It is in the exact order I compose a message. It is so much easier to get a message to look right in HTML, then just copy it over to text. I used to have to remember to scroll back up. I missed that a few times when I was in a hurry to get something out.

    Since people have different tastes in what they like, it might be worth try it make the lay out customized to each person, much like Google’s startpage. The system could remember each persons options. If they like text first they could just drag and drop that first in line and it would stay that way. Each person could compose their messages however they want, in what ever order they want.
    Thanks for the good work

  65. Kevin
    September 15th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    "Creating an HTML message without a plain text alternative is a bad idea."

    Yeah, so forcing me to see HTML creation when I don’t use it is a bad idea too ;)

  66. Kevin
    September 15th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Who is your PM? You’ve taken away a feature
    for the benefit of functionality/position of an
    edit window that clogs up my screen?!?

    Give me a save button so I can get a spam rating
    while I am constructing a message where I need it.

    Who would’ve thought that the location of an html
    editor is more important than the existence of a
    spam checker.

    I don’t even use html, just plain text.

    Where’s spell check and a thesaurus?

    PM — You should ALWAYS give a client the choice
    of getting the ‘new look’, not force the issue.

    So this leaves us ‘text only’ messagers hanging.

    No thanks on this one. You lost me in your thinking.

    I want a hide button for the ‘HTML Editor’ and I also
    want my spam checker back.

    " Justin Premick
    September 11th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Bruce,

    The spam checker will return.

    For now, it?s not linked on the edit pages because it doesn?t automatically update as you change your content (the score in the old interface was based on the most recently saved version of your message).

    As always, it?s still available on the main Follow Up and Broadcast pages - just not within the edit screen.

    Once we make the spam checker automatically update as you type your message, we?ll return it to the edit pages."

  67. Justin Premick
    September 15th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Thanks everyone for your continued feedback.

    I’m not sure I can address everyone’s comments individually and not have this reply be longer than the original post (so please don’t take it personally if I don’t cite your comment here).

    OK, here goes…

    - While a lot of people are getting value out of the Link Checker, we agree that we can (and should) make it more usable. We’re working on it.

    - It appears that the wording "Send Immediately" is throwing a couple people off.

    This is, in fact, how the Broadcast page worked before - if you didn’t change the date, it would send immediately (after you clicked "Queue Now" that is). The date that used to appear by default just happened to be the day/hour/minute that you clicked "Create Broadcast." Which, as a date in the past, basically meant your email was going to be sent immediately.

    Broadcasts are never sent until you’ve clicked "Queue Now." You can still test your email before it sends. Nothing has changed except the wording used in the calendar area.

    Thanks to those of you who have indicated that we haven’t made this sufficiently clear. I have a couple ideas of possible wording changes and will be discussing them with our development team.

    - Bender and Marilyn,

    Thanks for commenting on the current left-alignment of the control panel and stating your preference for a center alignment.

    I happen to agree with you that a centered control panel is a good idea and will be suggesting as much to Tom and our Development Team.

    - Edith and Akili,

    Is the pop up calendar not not appearing for you? Because when I click in the date box, the calendar does pop up.

    Check and make sure you have JavaScript enabled in your web browser - the calendar won’t pop up if you don’t.

    If you do have JavaScript enabled, but don’t get the pop up calendar, please leave a comment to let me know and I’ll follow up with you to sort out why not.

    - Doug,

    "[w]hy write an editor, that is going to have peculiarities and bugs, when Open Office and Microsoft Word do it so much better?"

    Neither OpenOffice nor MS Word are true HTML editors (nor true plain text editors, for that matter). Using them to create web content is problematic, as I commented above.

    While the WYSIWYG isn’t perfect, it’s generally been well-received since we introduced it a few years ago, and we do regularly update it to make it even more useful for AWeber customers.

    We do have some ideas on how to further improve the process of creating HTML emails, but I do not know when those ideas will take the shape of a production-ready feature.

    Thanks again to everyone for commenting.

  68. Jeff
    September 15th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    I would love to see a quicksave or apply button at the top of the page.

    I like to save my message frequently, without having to scroll to the bottom of the page save and click back in.

  69. Adrian
    September 16th, 2008 at 3:11 am

    Not sure about the changes yet although I suppose I will get used to them. Everything seems more spaced out to me whereas before everything was much more compact and logically set out.

    I only use plain text - HTML is unnecessary unless including graphics or text attributes - HTML trips spam filters much more easily - so I preferred the text only areas at the top.

    Also the default trackable links option set to On which converts links to AWeber links has caught me out twice, and I actually had to send a followup message to apologise to all my readers because it looks unprofessional.

    Can we have the trackable links option set to Off so we can optionally switch it on should we need this feature?

    Also - and this is not related to this topic but I will mention it anyway - numerous - and I believe it could be as high as 50% - messages are being filtered by local spam filters in for example Microsoft Outlook. The Outlook filters are defined and updated by Microsoft, so how about liasing with Microsoft to get AWeber messages white-listed? The email losses due to this are extremely high, and are not reported.

    Aside from those observations I think AWeber continues to provide an exceptional service and I am here in the long term.

  70. Spida Hunter
    September 16th, 2008 at 3:24 am

    Personally I like the changes, while I managed the "Old" version before I feel that the "new" changes are easier for me to send emails.

    Maybe it’s cause I’m not a techy person that it suits me how it is now?

    While I’ve read most of the posts to try and understand where the "issues" are. I feel that it’s EASIER for the newbie who has NO techy/javascripty/computy/ stuff at all.

    While that may not help those that are in the "know". It sure does help me :-)

    Thanks heaps,

  71. Edith
    September 16th, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Hi Justin,

    Tried again with the pop-up calender. This is the thing: in the search-leads section, the date-formfield stays blank, when I click the pop up calendar appears.
    In this messagecreation-section, the date-formfield does not stay blank, it says: mm/dd/yyyy. At first I thought there would be a pop up calendar, so I clicked my cursor here: mm|/dd/yyyy.

    But the pop up calendar didn’t appear, I had to manually insert the date.

    After your mail, I tried again, this time clicking the cursor in the blank spot behind yyyy. Yes, now the pop up calendar shows up.

    However, clicking again my cursor behind the mm does not bring up the pop up calendar.

    Now that I know, I will not have any problems with this myself, but maybe others will. For your information, I work on a Mac with browser Firefox 3.0.1.

  72. Joseph Sgro
    September 16th, 2008 at 6:46 am

    Hi,

    I prefer the old and I only use plain text.

  73. craig ballantyne
    September 16th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    I don’t really like it.

    I really dislike that the default is set to "track clicks". This makes the text links look like crap, as I missed removing the checkbox on the first email i sent out.

    Please remove that default. I’ll get used to the rest of it.

  74. Halina
    September 16th, 2008 at 9:39 am

    I VERY MUCH enjoy the new design. It feels much clearer & easier to work with.
    Thanks !

  75. Bob
    September 16th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    How about including a text editor that allows us to select the number of characters for the line length vs the existing "wrap long lines"?

  76. Ric Willmot
    September 18th, 2008 at 5:29 am

    Interesting that my feedback has never been published!

    I left a comment last week but it obviously was not sanctioned and hit a nerve???

  77. Toba
    September 18th, 2008 at 5:42 am

    Well, I am new to your autoresponder. I think offering the service free for a limited period of time to allow the user to master it will help a lot.

  78. Justin Premick
    September 18th, 2008 at 8:43 am

    Hi Ric,

    As you can see from your fellow readers above, we’re quite open to suggestions and complaints in the comments.

    I don’t recall seeing a comment from you, but here are a few things to keep in mind if you don’t see a comment appear:

    - It may have been caught in our comment spam filter. While I try to recover comments that the filter mistakenly flags as spam, with the volume of comment spam we get, I don’t always catch them. If that happened to your comment, I apologize.

    - Comments that are off-topic (this includes support inquiries and people trying to contact someone at AWeber personally) are generally handled by email rather than published.

    - Comments that use language inappropriate for a public forum are not published. They are either simply deleted, or addressed via email.

    I can’t say what may have occurred with your comment as I don’t recall ever seeing it. I’ve emailed you to get your input directly.

  79. Chandi
    September 24th, 2008 at 10:30 am

    I love the new design. MUCH FASTER and CLEANER.

    This was one of my requests on the survey, so I’m completely thrilled with this!!!

    Thank you!

  80. Lou D'Alo
    September 24th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    A few quick thoughts:

    1- thanks for continually wanting to improve the user experience. I’m always open to, and grateful for, anything that creates greater productivity and I appreciate your quest to continuously improve the Aweber experience. After the initial surprise of seeing the changes, I’m finding that most of the changes make navigating the message entry a bit faster. Always a good thing.

    2- UI (user interface) is a touchy thing, and the less frequently it changes, the better - unless there’s a significant demand or productivity gain.

    3 - with AJAX, it should be possible for users to hide/show/reorganize the screen elements to meet their individual layout preferences, no?

    4 - For me, UI changes are not where the bulk of productivity and useability gains are to be had. i support the changes in more meaningful aspects of the service that go beyond UI - for example, copying and reusing messages across lists, saving a group of sublists to broadcast to, personalization in absence of a name, and others that have been mentioned.

    5 - Would it be possible to make these changes and solicit feedback in a beta test environment, rather than to deploy unexpectedly on the user base and THEN solicit feedback? (Remember, I make my living from emailing to my subscribers - any disruption, however minor, has potential to disrupt my process and create unsubscribes. That has a direct financial impact). Also, would it be possible to preview the changes in video tutorials before making it live - help us be more prepared for the change?

    Just an idea…

    Have you considered a service like uservoice.com where we, the service users, can contribute ideas for enhancements and have the entire user community VOTE on what they consider most important? That should help you known on an ongoing basis what’s most important to the majority of your users.

    Oh, and one comment on the current changes …

    I have over 100 lists/sublists, when I check the "include/exclude" box to include multiples lists in a broadcast, it would be great to then be able to hide the long list of lists so I’m not needing to scroll past all 100+ list names to navigate above and below the "include/exclude" section?

  81. eric
    September 25th, 2008 at 8:23 am

    I do a lot of broadcasting in both of my AWeber accounts and have found the new changes are very awkward. The new broadcast format takes up way too much space. I do straight text broadcasts and find I have to do a lot of scrolling from subject to body copy.

    AWeber is absolutly #1 in customer support in my book and I’m glad they’re willing to implement upgrades but from a User Interface standpoint, I have to agree with John - if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Seems like the UI keeps getting easier for new AWeber users and more cumbersome for those of us that have been around for years. Can’t we have our dropdown menus back? lol

    Done complaining - I’m happy it still works and that you still support your customers and ask for their feedback.

    :)

  82. ken
    September 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    I don’t like that the ‘track links’ is checked by default.

    The new interface seems more difficult to use, and more awkward to navigate around. Please, as hotmail does, Give us a CHOICE to use the original interface again instead of being forced to use this new one, which is more awkward to me at least.

    I do like the automatic link check feature, thanks for that.

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